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Vann Borakul · Apr 22, 2008, 06:46 PM // 18:46

I often see almost completely W/Rts farming UW. But someone told me about this W/Me Whirlwind build recently. It says on pvxwiki that it is the fastest way to farm the smites. The video accompanying it is exactly 9 minutes long, but it cuts out one portion and the guy misses a group, so it's more like 10-11 minutes.

Are there any advantages it has over the W/Rt build? I've been using this build, and whenever I actually have a successful run, I do it in about 15 minutes. Until I get better. I don't know if my high failure rate is lack of ever really farming much or if the build is very fragile. I might switch to W/Rt, but I'm not sure.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/...Whirlwind_Solo

And what is your take on killing all smites at once? Is it really less chance of an ecto drop? Because I've done 5 complete runs and I haven't gotten a single ecto.

Murmel · Apr 22, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Tried the W/Me sword variant once, didn't even kill first group of Grasps -_-

tonk · Apr 22, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

I run the W/Rt build. I seem to get 1 ecto every 10 runs or so. if i remember correctly the there is a 2% chance of ecto drop from smites.

wetsparks · Apr 22, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11

w/rt is safer (last I heard and tried) which is probably why you see them more than w/me

stretchs · Apr 22, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

1 ecto every 10 runs? Good god, I must be the luckiest man alive if that is your ratio. I get 1 ecto per 2 runs. Now that is an avg figure as there are 3-4 runs I may get none and then some i get 3-4 in one run, so it averages out to about one every 2 runs. As for other variants I really am most comfortable with the W/Rt.

snodaard · Apr 22, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

I realy enjoy the W/Me build becouse it is , how to say it, differend.
And for me it work's perfect becouse i did it alot

i atleast get an ecto every 2 runs, usualy 1 per run

tonk · Apr 22, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

I have no luck in there lol, never got more than 1 in a single run...

Trader of Secrets · Apr 22, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

I use W/Rt, get like 1-2 ecto per run with 1/6 dry runs. This is just smites only, although I heard of people going to kill mindblade, need to try that out. Much safer than the W/Me build. Not sure about you people getting 1/20 runs an ecto, maybe just doing UW farming way too much.

MrSlayer · Apr 22, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

A video I made

W/Rt vs W/Me
It's not a tutorial...shows the 2 builds on the same sort of mobs with roughly similar sized pulls. Note; I now clear the chamber in 1 pull with W/Me...did it in 2 in the video, just cos I hadn't managed it in 1 before that.

Horus Moonlight · Apr 22, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39

I've tried both before.

W/Rt:

[+] Newb friendly. Seems easier to use than the W/Me for newcomers to the UW.

[-] Slower than the W/Me.

W/Me:

[+] Quicker than the W/Rt

[-] Not as newb friendly as the W/Rt. However, to those who are experienced with the smite run, there really is no "safety" difference between the two builds; aggroing and killing graspings, running to the ice wastes, and knowing the coldfire night patrols is extremely easy after a few smite runs.

Overall:

If you are new to the UW, use the W/Rt.

If you are experienced with smite run, use the W/Me.

Age · Apr 22, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54

I would think that W/Me would be better going up against Aataxes and mot just smites.

Xx_Sorin_xX · Apr 22, 2008, 10:24 PM // 22:24

W/Rt is nice because it's pretty fail free. Your armor isn't a big issue and your weapons aren't a big issue either. Even the build is pretty lenient imo as long as you use the few essential skills.

W/Me, on the otherhand, requires more. You need a zealous weapon, and I'm pretty sure you need knights armor. Also, this build can be difficult if you don't aggro enough smites/graspings because you don't gain enough energy from zealous. The W/Rt build doesn't require any amount of foes

So whatever fits your situation and playing style better is the one you should choose.

biswis · May 21, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

can anyone give me a screen shot of the armor/weapon make up of a W/Rt vs W/Me??

Abedeus · May 21, 2008, 08:55 AM // 08:55

You didn't even care to read the link or check pvxwiki, why should we help you even more?

English Warrior · May 21, 2008, 11:02 AM // 11:02

i would Say Echo Whirlwind W/Me is better to farm.

English Warrior · May 21, 2008, 11:02 AM // 11:02

i would Say Echo Whirlwind W/Me is better to farm.

CE Devilman · May 21, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

nice U got 3 prof...

Warrior (W) - echo (Me) - whirlwind(Ele)

High Centurion · May 21, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

the whirlwind he's talking bout is the warrior sunspear skill.
Back to Topic, i personally use the W/Me(since ive done UW alot) but like everyone else has said, for new playsers to U, W/rt is safer.

MrSlayer · May 21, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by CE Devilman

nice U got 3 prof...

Warrior (W) - echo (Me) - whirlwind(Ele)

Almost as epic was Echo Mending Warriors methinks

MisterT69 · May 22, 2008, 01:22 AM // 01:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by stretchs

1 ecto every 10 runs? Good god, I must be the luckiest man alive if that is your ratio. I get 1 ecto per 2 runs. Now that is an avg figure as there are 3-4 runs I may get none and then some i get 3-4 in one run, so it averages out to about one every 2 runs. As for other variants I really am most comfortable with the W/Rt.

1 every 2 runs *gasp* /looks at ele section...o, watdya kno, average E/Mo mindblade farm nets 5-6 ectos a run. Now between the W/Rt and W/Me, def go W/Rt if you're new just for the ease of use, more experience...go W/Me, but in all honesty, it's w/e you find more fun